It is amazing at how our upbringing has so much of an impact on us.

In several of the posts that I have read on this website seem to be unusually vicious/suspicious of Christianity.

That old saying, “Hurting people, hurt people,” may be playing out here.

Danny, don’t you see? You say you left because of logical reasons, but really, you’ve been hurt, and you also want to live a sinful life, and he can tell all that from reading text. Dude is a magician.

See, this is why these “discussions” are pointless. Any questioning of Christianity is considered “unusually vicious/suspicious.” And people wonder why most of us keep silent. Bleh.

Faith, by definition, is very illogical right?

but then again, ancient greeks ( the ones from whence we get our word logic ) would of instantly related their word for logic with a belief in a divine plan or order.

Basically because the english word ” Logic ” comes from, The greek word LOGOS, and was actually the word they used to describe the spiritual question of the big WHY.

In Short - the ancient greek word logos from where we get our word logic, at one time was used to describe the logical plan or purpose that coordinates the universe.

Picked up by John about 600 years after the word logos first appeared in writing.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word ( Logos or LOGIC ) , and the Word ( LOGIC ) was with God, and the Word ( LOGIC ) was God.

and that is where we get those cool little snap together building blocks.

Just trying to further the discussion and define terms.

I don’t want to start something, but that is the first time I have heard anyone translate logos as logic. Where did you get that from?

Danny, can I play too? I can tell by his words that he likes apples and sunshine.

This is from Merriam Webster

Main Entry: log·ic
Pronunciation: \ˈlä-jik\ Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English logik, from Anglo-French, from Latin logica, from Greek logikē, from feminine of logikos of reason, from LOGOS “reason”

Closely related to ” Legend ” as in to gather information in order to give reason, or an intent.

Here is one of the few verses where Logos is not translated Word…

Ac 10:29 Therefore came I unto you without gainsaying, as soon as I was sent for: I ask therefore for what INTENT ( LOGOS ) ye have sent for me?

and in this verse

Ac 18:14 And when Paul was now about to open his mouth, Gallio said unto the Jews, If it were a matter of wrong or wicked lewdness, O ye Jews, REASON ( LOGOS ) would that I should bear with you:

so in the first verse it was INTENT, and in the second it was REASON. It seems to me that Logic could be substituted both times since they were both the word Logos.

I’m a Christian and I believe in evolution… sort of.

I wonder how a primitive man without media, technology, education, without racial and religious bias came to faith in a God he could not see or touch.

Mostly I feel like our modern/ postmodern (whatever) world has robbed me of my opinion and my innocent wonder/horror of the world I live in. Why can’t what I believe to be true, be true? And why do I have to prove it to anyone. No doubt my reasons for believing are influenced by paycheck, pride and predjuice - I wish none of them ever had anything to do with my faith in Jesus. For truly he has changed my life inspite of my madness… at the end of the day his words and life are all that really ring true down deep in my soul.

Much evolution hath made me mad!

Thanks for the thought provoking posts. - Scott

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen, I believe that Bigfoot is real because I know what Bigfoot really is. The film that Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin made in 1967 in Northern California at Bluff Creek of Bigfoot was real. Here is what they filmed on October 20 1967.
Several thousand years ago there were thousands of slaves that ran off around the world and started their own countries. When these slaves ran off there was a large group of men and boys of all different ages and sizes that took off and ended up in Africa. Some of them were giants as tall as 9 ft. or even taller. The giant named Goliath that David killed with his slingshot was 9 ft. tall. So there were giants in those days. Some of these men and boys went exploring to Borneo and caught female Orangutans and took them to South America and had sex with them and created the Indians. The men and boys that stayed in Africa caught female Gorillas and had sex with them and created the Africans. When scientists found the bones in Africa they thought we evolved naturally from a female Chimpanzee. But it wasn’t a natural evolution it was a man made evolution. That’s where all the Bigfoot and Orangutan creatures come from. They are half man and half Gorilla and half man and half Orangutan. They use to call the Indians the red man. The Orangutan has reddish hair. When those men bred out the hair the Indian’s skin remained red. The Gorilla has black hair and skin. When those men bred out the hair the African’s skin remained black. Some of the Indians and Africans are tall. And some of the Bigfoot and Orangutan creatures are tall. They are tall because some of the men that created them were tall. Some scientists believe that we evolved naturally from a female Chimpanzee. Have you ever seen an 8 ft. tall Chimpanzee? I haven’t either. Bigfoot migrated up through Africa and came into the United States at the top of Africa when they were connected by land. The Orangutan creatures migrated up through Central America and came into the United States like the Indians did. Some of the first Europeans that saw the Africans said that the African women had genitals that resembled that of a Gorilla. The creature that Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin filmed in 1967 was half man and half Gorilla. It was a female Bigfoot that they named Patty. Patty was not a man in a costume, she is not our missing link and she is not a figment of our imagination. Patty was simply a creature that was created by men that had sex with female Gorillas and Orangutans a long time ago. Believe it or not, man created his own evolution. JC

what is your defenition of evolution? sure things elolve, such as technology, things even adapt. But things don’t evolve. Do you people really think that all the complex things in the world came into existance by chance? The world is proof of a divine creator. The substances called enzymes sole purposes are to bring substances that don’t actually come together naturally. That was created by chance? I just don’t understand what other proof you people need. God obviously created man and the universe not some things that came into existance by chance.