| « In like a lion | Attitude of Nature » |
Best and Worst Presidents
A discussion over at Voter Vault got me thinking about who I would rank as the best and worst Presidents in our history. Here are my top five:
1. Abraham Lincoln
2. George Washington
3. Franklin D. Roosevelt
4. Thomas Jefferson
5. John Kennedy
I don't feel too strongly about Kennedy. Maybe Wilson should be there. Kennedy did get us into Vietnam, but he also pushed the Apollo program. I guess the nerd in me wins out.
Now, for the worst Presidents:
39. Franklin Pierce
40. Herbert Hoover
41. Andrew Johnson
42. James Buchanan
43. Warren G. Harding
It's still way too early to put George W. Bush in either list. Unless things turn around in Iraq in the next year, he'll probably find his place in the bottom five eventually.
Who would you put in these two lists? If you need some help, take a look at this article about scholar's rankings.
132 comments
I would put Washington ahead of Lincoln though.
In chapter 2 of this wonderful book of mine, I mention a commemoration in the chapel of the University of Chicago of the fiftieth anniversary of the atom-bombing of Hiroshima. I said at the time that I had to respect the opinion of my friend William Styron that the Hiroshima bomb saved his life. Styron was then a United States Marine, training for an invasion of the Japanese Home islands, when that bomb was dropped.
I had to add, though, that I knew a single word that proved our democratic government was capable of committing obscene, gleefully rabid and racist, yahooistic murder of unarmed men, women, and children, murders wholly devoid of military common sense. I said the word. It was a foreign word. That word was Nagasaki.
As for Franklin and Jefferson, they did well, but I'm referring to 1789-1797, GW's actual presidency, after all it's a question of the best President. Franklin was basically dead by this point, and Jefferson was too busy arguing with Hamilton.
As for Truman, danny, if you take him out of the top 5 because of the atomic bombs, you have to take out FDR from the top 5 too, due to the completely unnecessary firebombing of Dresden. This bombing killed anywhere from 30,000 to 150,000, mostly civilians. Fat Boy killed 80,000 Japanese.
My point is, the situation/scenario is the same, just with different countries, and the lack of an actual atomic bomb. Germany was not going to win this war...that was clear. FDR did not have to order the Air Force and RAF to bomb it.
Throw in Japanese internment camps, and you gonna take FDR out of the top five if you take Truman out, especially if you're basing it on the negative effects on civilians, whether it be death, injury, or displacement.
Jefferson as president: if you look beyond the Louisiana Purchase he made some dumb decisions. And owned slaves until the day he died.
Kennedy: If he wasn't handsome, had a hot wife, and was murdered, he wouldn't be held in such reverence. What his father did to get him elected is simply mind-bending. His great achievement: Civil Rights.
Space program? In his private tapes he said the space program was just a gimmick.
Cuban Missile Crisis? A great act of dipolomacy necessary because he screwed up with the Bag of Pigs.
FDR: Stepped on the Constitution. He did NOT solve the Depression, WW2 did that. He LIED to the American people about entering the war.
Other overrated:
Woodrow Wilson: Prohibition? The WORST Amendment in US history. Racist.
THE BEST
Washington and Lincoln
Underrated:
James K Polk
James Monroe
Those that fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it.
Geo. W bush is the sorriest this countrey has ever had...
JFK" enough already! He was immature and very overrated. He wasted his chance. Fine speaker. But could not hold his own with foreign leaders. Acted like a fool regarding Bay of Pigs. I would put him closer to the bottom of the list. He probably got laid more than any other president. Nixon always got the worst treatment by the press, the press covered for JFK. JFK affiliations with mafia characters would be enough to sink JFK. But the press is enamored with his history. What a shame.
Top 5 are
Lincoln
FDR
Washington
Jefferson
T. Roosevelt
Worst - George W. Bush
runners up for worst: Harding
Buchanan
Grant
Pierce
The worst would be a long list. Pierce, Hoover & A. Johnson I agree on. Bill Clinton would have to be there just for the impeachment alone. I would also consider Carter in the bottom 5 for just being a political puppet during his presidency.
Top of List Reagan and Truman followed closely by Madison, Washington and Lincoln and Jackson (Strong Central Bank). Biggest wastes as President were Eisenhower and Carter! Jimmy Carter may have been the most ignorant and useless President of ANY Country in the History of the World!
even tho you are dead on with your facts. and i totally agree ppl should know what they are talking about before blabbing out garbage... but we all leave out this and that to bolster our claims and comments.. even you did..
ever hear of the term "bombenholocaust"?? well, it means "holocaust by bomb" this just goes to show that many still think that the fire bombings of Dresden and other German cities and other strategic bombings was not held lightly and moreover as a cowardly act.. Your number of 24k is the low end.. it goes up to 50k or maybe more. altho probly justified, but in hindsight, you could see it was not needed.. even tho the many ppl say that the war was close to over, this got construed b/c of the Battle of the Bulge was so devastating to both sides... nonetheless bombing raids were amped up and continued.. military intelligence found under the marshall inquiry deemed it necessary as a military strategic location for the Germans.. again, hindsight, it wasn't that necessary. it did have the few remaining railroads and communications but even that wouldn't have saved the nazis.. so again, at the time they thought it was needed.. but you have the other side that sees Dresden as this magical historic city.. which it is and was.. Dresden is like Florence or Rome or Paris.. all Europeans have a deep love for Dresden..
even British philosophers, historians and International Lawyers today deem it was a War Crime! It is hard for many who see an investigation by the 'allies' to investigate themselves for war crimes such as Dresden and find themselves innocent and that acts such as Dresden were necessary a little hard to accept.
In North Korea ppl go to prison if they say something that is wrong about the North Korean Government.. So GHBraves is not the danger to freedom.. it is THREAT mongers that are the danger.. the ppl who shut others down that are the danger.. for all we know.. Mr. GhBraves could very well have sincerely thought he was telling the truth..
just b/c ppl on both sides have diffeerent views, different opinions and even diffferent facts or one has the right fact and the other is wrong or has exxagerated them... it doesn't mean they are a danger!
even in your statement MICHAEL... you left out pertinent info to bolster your comment.. it wasn't a dead on 24,000. thats the low end of the number and goes up to 50,000 or maybe more.. also, it was the "allies" who deemed dresden was necessary after the investigation.. the ALLIES investigated themsevles and said that they did NOT committ war crimes.. even tho there probly were military factories and it was probly justified, the fact is thousands died..
for my take on best presidents.. I mostly agree with what everyone is saying.. which seems to be the concsensus.. I do think Kennedy should be up there.. yes overrated, but what he did during the ColdWar was a feat not many leaders would of handled. I think his presidency is not only defined by the Apollo program but by those "thirteen days" in October..
As for Reagan, I would have to Agree w/ some of the comments, again, I think he was overrated too. yes, he did a great job helping the ColdWar come to an end.. but there were alot of leaders worldwide and before him that helped make it happen.. He was all foreign policy and no domestic.. Also the debacle of the Iran-Contra affair.. I could be wrong.. but wasn't he for the sale of weapons to the Contras to help covert operations such as in Iran?? Or was it vice-versa? I don't know. but what I do know.. I remember alot of ppl disliking him during the 80s. In fact, that is all I remember about him b/c of the recession..
But, being that I wasn't yet alive during his Presidency, what was it that made him so bad?? I am very curious. All I ever hear of how bad he was.. He is by far the most successful and most popular former President of his "post-presidency". His human and politcal rights agenda is bar none.. I am sure it has helped his legacy. Again, why do so many ppl dislike him? I in fact find him to be quite honest and of moral, sound judgement. Not many Presidents tell the truth like he does...(or am i wrong?)
Best- F D Roosevelt
IKE
Bill C
J Ford
JFK
Worst - George W Bush
L B Johnson
R M Nixon
R Reagan
H W Bush
My mother used to say, "There is some good in even the worst of people just as there is a little bad in the best of everyone". I firmly believe that!!
Therefore I did not rate the presidents so much on their character as what they were able to accomplish working with the congress and situations in the world at that time.
Worst: Harding, L Johnson, Jackson, Jimmy Carter, Taft, Hoover, Wilson, FDR, Truman.
After reading your very critical post, I have deducted that you are:
1. Not very knowledgeable of history
2. Incapable of typing in "FDR" to Google.
3. A hypocrite
4. Very dangerous, as YOU do not check your facts.
5. Of questionable intelligence
As such, I'll leave it to you to figure out why these five items are utterly true.
Also, a couple of random comments.
Although JFK had nearly 16,000 "advisors" in Vietnam by Nov. 1963, you gotta throw some blame on Eisenhower. He really got the ball rolling...at least ideologically, to get us in the Vietnam "interventionist" mentality.
Furthermore, while I like Reagan, I can't give him full credit for ending the Cold War. In one of his few brilliant moments, Jimmy Carter's authorization of the grain embargo against the USSR was pretty huge, in furthering economic troubles over there.
Monroe - 'Era of Good Feelings' and prosperity during a potentially dangerous era. Staved off Civil War.
JC Adams - Brilliant person who continued Monroe's legacy and helped sustain economic and political stability by modernizing the nation with new roads, canals, a national university and an astronomical observatory.
Eisenhower - general peace and prosperity despite pressure from the military to escalate conflicts. Minor reforms but at least avoided the country plunging into McCarthy-ite dark ages and even took on McCarthy personally behind the scenes.
Carter- For a one term president, made some notable achievements (eg Camp David agreements, avoided escalation of Cold War despite Breshnev, implemented a human rights policy that while imperfect did curb abuse in many countries). Inherited the Iran problem but could have done more to break with the Shaw and Somoza earlier, issues which would later come to haunt America. Despite this, deserves at least top 15-20 range ranking, rather than the bottom of the barrel rankings I see him put in.
Overrated are:
Truman - Historians have dismissed his unpopularity too casually as being part of his folksy toughness. They have been overinflunced by his memoirs and support for the creation of Israel. Too many failures add up to a bad presidency. He mismanaged the economy and labour issues, causing the Republicans to take Congress, and his combative style found him passing very little reform legislation. His administration was riddled with corruption. In foreign afairs, aside from his reckless, cavalier use of the Manhatten Project and the disastorous Truman Doctrine, he completly bungled the Korean war by doing many of the things GW BUSh would later do - rushing in without being ready, not having a consistent agenda or plan, overextending the UN mandate and unwittingly provoking China into directly entering. After the Chinese had practically pushed the American military off the Korean peninsula Truman was only saved by a Chinese strategic retreat (China feared a wider, direct and possibly nuclear confrontation). He flip-flopped - one minute wanting to overrun the whole penisual and then pulling back, hoping for a PR victory with the rest of the world. We can fault MaCarthur all we want for insubordination but one can hardly blame him for devising his own plans out of frustration.
Jackson - unless you like racist, imperialists. He was America's Emperor Hirohito of the 19th century.
Lincoln - Let's not forget that he was the first president that failed to avoid civil war, waffling on his exact position on slavery at first, and then perceiving the confrontation between the Union and Confederates to be a cake-walk for the latter. A closer examination shows a less than enlightened leadership. He suspended the writ of habeas corpus, permitting military arrest and court-martial of civilian anti-war activists and his post-reconstruction plans were deeply flawed. He did make great speeches!
Wilson - Arrogant, unable to work with his opposition and failed to decisively negotiate an equitable agreement in 1919 that might have avoided future war. A good statesman but a horrible diplomat!
Just my opinoins and they are biased by my preference for presidents that effectively maintain or promote peace, preside (by good management) over general prosperity, find some success in implementing reforms and are relatively free of scandal. I respect all other interpretations and perhaps I'll change my mind if you present a good case without shouting insults.
Worst: Bush Jr., Sr., Buchanan, Reagan, and Did I mention Bush Jr.?
It's tough to be purely objective, but many here aren't even trying. Alas.
i love him.
I had an affair with Nader. <33
Kennedy has many problems: Bay of Pigs Invasion, beginning the Vietnam war, and the Iraq bloodbath Kennedy personally supported Saddam Hussain to rid the country of leftists.
Washington
Wilson
F Roosevelt
Eisenhower
Worst
GW Bush
Ford
linclon
JFK
Carter
Regarding the bombing of Dresden, FDR was still alive (he died 4/15/45). Also, while Truman was VP from 1/20 - 4/14, he met with Roosevelt only briefly and was clearly not in the inner circle of power or decision-making during that time. Bottom line: Dresden (regardless of whether it was ordered by FDR or Churchill) occurred during Roosevelt's watch.
Additional topic - not related to Michael's comments: JFK.
I have long been a fan of the Kennedy presidency, and I believe that, had he lived, he would likely have ranked well. Unfortunately, he did not live, so the record is a mixed bag (Good moments: space program, Peace Corps handling of Cuban Missile Crisis, inspirational leadership; bad moments: Vietnam escalation, Bay of Pigs).
Final point: arguments for/against presidential greatness should minimize emphasis on marital fidelity. It is not an indicator of executive performance.
My list - for the record...
Best (in order):
- Washington (estblished key precedents, provided leadership over highly talented, yet bitterly divided, cabinet)
- Lincoln (preserved the union; overcame serious cabinet dissention)
- FDR (depression/WWII)
- TR (Progressivism)
Worst:
- LBJ and Nixon tie (both had strong achievements, but their negative issues poisoned public opinion of government for years to come)
- Buchanan
- Carter
- Andrew Johnson
"W" is likelay an addition to the list, but it's too early to judge.
Most Overrated:
JFK
Reagan
Most Underrated:
McKinley (more progressive than he was given credit for)
bush
reagan
nixon
bush
johnson
Worst would have to be Bush Jr., Harding, Pierce, LB Johnson, and Jackson.
I hardly doubt Dubya will be ranked the worst president in history. Or even in the bottom five. Yes he is socially stupid. He deserves better. His presidency was far more successful than not. Items include:
ƒ{ Not signing Kyoto protocol. That thing was a joke. Yes we need to start a ¡§war on climate change,¡¨ but just think how the economy would be now if regulations were even tighter.
ƒ{ Intense tactics used to locate people involve in plots to kill Americans. Yes, however controversial, necessary.
ƒ{ Tax cuts for everyone. Before our media sparked recession hit, think of what you got during the past 8 years that you never thought you could have. A lake home, new car, that great job, etc. All had been at all time highs. ¡§Tax cuts¡¨ for Oil companies is a tactic used to describe this, however how can you give everyone a tax cut and say sorry Oil companies you suck and make too much money, cant have one. Can I hear Lawsuit.
ƒ{ Support for a peaceful middle east, especially with Israel. Until recently everything has been relatively stable (and you can¡¦t blame him for an uncooperative unrecognized government with no sense of human welfare).
ƒ{ No Child Left Behind Act, with funding and success rates at the highest ever.
ƒ{ Continuing to promoting Democracy around the world, so every human has a great of life as we do here in America.
ƒ{ Medicare prescription drug benefit, with lowered rates for everyone by increase drug competition.
ƒ{ Rebuilding of presidential authority. Yes, his ideas where always highly criticized by the media and then by the public; however, he did restore the frightened don¡¦t make any major decisions without approval ethic of the last former presidents which has been going on for decades.
ƒ{ Strengthened relations with east Asian democracies including China and India.
ƒ{ Finally he freed Afghanistan and Iraq without the lost of one American civilian. The troop surge, funding, and methods made the world a better place. And if Clinton (not judging him on anything else as yes he was a good president) would have pulled the trigger on multiple opportunities on Osama Bin Ladin we wouldn¡¦t even be in this argument.
Don¡¦t judge the past couple years on one man. I think he will find his place in history as a middle of the road man. Just like the majority of the presidents of the last decade. Not to mention none of you have even met or I¡¦m sure hardly researched the worst presidents. What about William Henry Harrison, only a month in office, how did he do any good? Or Millard Fillmore, who signed legislation to keep slavery at its peak.
And by the way, I voted for Gore.
1. Lincoln
2. Washinton
3. Reagan
4. FDR
5. Teddy
Worst
1. Buchanan
2. Pierce
3. Filmore
4. Hoover
5. Harding
Underrated
1. W.
2. H.W.
3. Ford
Overrated
1. Clinton
2. Carter
3.Johnson
Not in Order
Lyndon Johnson
Bill Clinton
Richard Nixon( EXCLUDING WATERGATE )
Harry Truman
Teddy Roosevelt
I picked these 5 for certain reasons Harry Truman becasue he took the first steps to Civil Rights. Nixon prevented another World War. Johnson made JFK's leagacies realities. Clinton becasue he made our countries economy SKY ROCKET! Roosevelt is pretty self explainitory.
Taft should be mentioned in the Top 10 because he became President for his friend and did a damn good job.
Carter was definitely the worst of the 20th century, with Hoover and Harding running close 2nd and 3rd
Of the best.. Washington and Teddy R deserve to be in that top 5.. with Reagan, Jefferson, and Truman
Top overrated:
JFK - Sorrow and remembrance don't make one great
FDR - Again popular, but his New Deal prolonged the depression and set a horrid precedent for government spending. His global policies pre-war were pretty bad.
Clinton - Took much credit on the economy which was not because of him, but because of the tech boom. Also the same tech boom that turned to bust that killed the economy as he was finishing up his term and continued for a while afterward.
1. Lincoln Idealist
2. Teddy Roosevelt Realist
3.Jimmy Carter A model To be revered! A true AMERICAN,Farmer,Soldier,Politician, Humanitarian, someone who gets his hands dirty and into real work!
4.Kennedy, killed before he could make his mark on our society.
5.Johnson for trying.
WORST
1. BUSH #1
2. BUSH #2
3.Reagan, phoney, baloney.
4.Clinton for his sexual excapades, bad Dad and husband and role model.
5.Nixon, he got caught, Both Bushe's and Reagan should have!
He got us in Vietnam.
He created the Cuban missile crisis.
He didn't keep his word to the Cuban freedom fights that he helped train.
He approved a plan to hire the Mafia to kill a foreign leader.
He involvement in Marilyn Monroe's death.
The list does on about of how bad and ugly a president he was.
Worst: Carter, Carter, Carter, Carter, Carter! Throw in Buchanan, Pierce, Fillmore, Nixon and Harding.
oh. and andrew jackson... he wasn't cool at all.... yet somehow we tend to like him just cause we see his face on money....
but clinton is totally over rated... it's cause of him that bush had it so hard. he had to redefine the honor that is involved with it all.
Reagan
Lincoln
Theodor Roosevelt
Washington
Truman
Worst:
John Adams
Clinton
Carter
FDR
Obama (stimulus)more like (strangle us)
The best are:
Lincoln
FDR
Washington
Ronald Raegan
Teddy Roosevelt
Worst are:
Buchanon
Harding
Hoover
Clinton
Harrison (he died in a month can't help but put him here)
Johnson
*these are in no specific order.
(I would add Obama to the worst list but he hasn't done yet what he says he going to do which will, in turn, cause me to put him in my worst list, such as, cut our military spending like the idiot is going to do.
Number 1 Abraham Lincoln: Although he didn't keep his promises to the american people about slavery. It was a good lie that helped america achieve greatness. Grew up as a poor kid who became successful and united america in crisis. If we stayed with democrats we would of ended up right now with to country's in america.
Number 2 Ronald Reagan: Reagan left us with a good amount of deficits, but it was worth it. He collapsed communism in his administration which helped us out over all. I mean now we don't have to spend as much on the military thanks to him so he really saved us money and time. He fought for low taxes and small government. And got us out of one of the most serious Recessions we ever had.
Number 3 Richard Milhouse Nixon: He ended the Vietnam war like he promised to. Which never would of happened if america wasn't so stupid to elect Kennedy. He got screwed by Kennedy's men in the mob. He ended a Recession caused by Kennedy using basic conservative ideas. Lowered taxes on all americans which always helps. Had one of the most effective drug recovery programs with criminals. And above all his trips to China helped america out in many ways. Which prevented a third world war. His only downfall in life was Watergate. Not to mention his middle name was used to create one of the funniest Simpson characters.
Number 4 Dwight .D. Easenhower: In his administration he had one of the highest economic growths in history. Now I know what your saying didn't he like that jerk Clinton profit over a tech boom. Not at all in the Truman years we also had TVs, but by ending the War in Curia it created economic growth. And like all of the other true conservative presidents reduced spending and lowered taxes.
Number 5 Theodore Roosevelt: Oh come on do I really have to explain he's just naturally great. And just to educate he was the youngest president.
1: washington
2: b.hayes brouth back the economy and was one of the prsidents who put value to our money, even do is presedency was overshadow by the close election.
3: regan
4: lincon
5: teddy
worts
1: clinton
2:carte
3:kennedy
4:buchanan
5:johnson
FDR: Now most people Republican or Democrat would put him on there list, but not me. You see he would've never won three terms if it wasn't for big government. He made the depression go longer with big government. Taking away our american rights raising taxes. The only reason the depression ended was because of Hitler.
Thomas Wilson: Well consider him on the top 10 just because he was pretty good. The only real problem with him was that he had stupid ideas on taxes and prohibition, but still a good president. And he really couldn't of being that good. He only won because Taft and Roosevelt killed each other while running instead of working together and as for reelection he won by a point of two.
Harry Truman: He won WW2 he was, a great leader, and had some accomplishments. Really I was going to put him as number 5, but his approval rating was worse than Bush. Not to mention he was weak on the economic part of WW2 leaving us with huge deficits.
Thomas Jefferson: The louisiana purchase was great, but for a guy who said everyone's equal. Having five kids with a slave is just terrible. I mean he said he was happily married, but had more affairs than Clinton probably not Kennedy though. I mean who has that many affairs openly and has to many kids to count. Oh wait Sunny Corleone from the Godfather. Just put him as a number 6.
Andrew Jackson: Ah he did nothing really good. Great general though, but there weren't as many problems than.
I'll tell you where obama will be ranked number 39.
1 Reagan
2 Lincoln
3 Washington
4 Teddy Roosevelt
5 Truman
worst;
5 LBJ
4 Carter
3 Clinton
2 FDR (COMMUNIST)
1 OBAMA (COMMUNIST)
2. Lincoln
3. JFK
4. Thomas Jefferson
5. Obama - who will change American policy and get us out of the mess Bush left us in
You know nothing about history or economics zelmira, so please do not go pointing your finger at Bush.
1) The tax code. It is several thousand pages thick and is so full of unnecessary crap that we don't need. Set a universal tax percentage (around 28%). And if you donate X amount of dollars, you can get a 50% tax right off for that X amount. Simple, and 'can fit on a post card.'
2) Stop "many" of these socialist programs. They are just fat. Trim it off and there goes a lot of your deficits.
3) Do something about the US Mexican Boarder. Put up a wall, and stop the illegals. That solves a tun of the Health Care issues.
4) DO NOT nationalize Health Care.
5) End earmarks.
6) Get the Government out of the private sector.
7) Lift CEO salery caps.
8) Cut back on military spending. I love the military. It keeps us safe. But there is so much wasteful spending going on in that area. Continue to research and to develope, but cut out those fatty "programs".
'The best defence, is offence.'
9) I would stop apologizing for 'Americans actions against the world.' We are not to blame for any thing. Who cares if Iran hates us, who cares if Somalia hates us? I don't. Let them hate me. Obama thinks the world hates us because we are too great. We are too powerful. We are too rich. Which makes us BAD? Why?
'We are a city on a hill, for all the world to look upon.' That is what WE are.
I like most of your ideas, but instead of your tax policy use a fair tax like what Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul wanted.
Funny, when a couple thousand people protest the Iraq War, CNN, & ABC, are all over it. But when three hundred thousand people protest government spending, CNN & ABC, say, "it is a riot, and should not be aired!"
FOX was the only network that showed the tea parties.
Also, since when is water boarding "torcher"? We need information to keep the country safe. In the words of Al Capon, "You can get more of what you want with a kind word and a gun, then you can with just a kind word."
And o' now it is incorrect to say "terrorist"! That is what they are. Face it! And o' now our troops coming home from Iraq are "terrorists"? And o' now we are shutting down Guantanamo Prison! What next? Are we going to hand Osama Binladin a get out of jail free card?
about best and worst presidents.
I noticed alot of people ranked GW Bush as one of the worst, but no one really said why, other than his involvement in The War in Iraq....Why does a war make a president bad? The president doesn't have a whole lot to do with war, really. Sure he authorizes our involvement, but everything else he is advised on. People need to really research the stuff that was going on over there. The Taliban could have turned into a Hitler-like regime.
The whole reason Hitler's regime became so powerful is because Great Britain and others ignored the the Nazis at first, and "let them have their way" hoping that they would be pacified.
Clinton has got to be in the worst 5.
He didn't DO anything. He seemed to just coast along. Nothing bad happened while he was in office. He just got lucky.
Well heres my stance on GITMO let them all burn. Now I'm not huge supporter of Iraq because I feel it's become pointless. Yet I really think that if we get rid of GITMO we will have another terrorist attack bigger than 9/11 and Pearl Harbor combined. We should look at it like this water boarding can save thousands of lives and it's not really bad we don't burn or beat them to death. And what does obama think other countries do to our soldiers give them flowers and cookies.
Also isn't it funny when Arlen Specter switches parties he's praised by NBC, but when Joe Lieberman does it he's called a trader. Oh well! I guess it's like when nobody mentions that Colin Powell and obama had nothing in coming besides there skin.
1. Reagan
2. Lincoln
3. Washington
4. Jefferson
5. Roosevelt (Franklin)
6. Roosevelt (Theodore)
7. Eisenhower
8. Ford
9. Kennedy
10. Bush (George W.)
I sooooo agree with Billy Downs. my worst presidents are:
1. Clinton
2. Hoover
3. Harding
4. Coolidge
5. Carter
6. Nixon
7. Truman
8. Johnson
9. Clinton (I just hate him ALOT)
10. Wilson
I will not put the following presidents on either list for some reason: Obama,Grant,Cleveland, Jackson,Adams(Quincy), Buchanan, Pierce, and Tyler.
39. Bill Clinton why you ask the economy was good,we had a surplus, and there were fairly low taxes. Yet he caused 9/11 hands down no questions asked. Nafta was good at first, but it's cost us millions of jobs over the years. He profited over the tech boom if it wasn't for that he would of been what obama is now. He only won because of Ross Perot. And his countless amount of affairs and scandals.
40. Franklin Pierce because he was on of the biggest causes of the Cival War next to Buchanan.
41. Jimmy Carter well put it like this the problem that Clinton had with his dick is what Carter had with his brain. He was weak on Foreign Policy almost as big of a pussy as obama. And on the economy he gets even worse. Also he lead america like a gay not like Reagan lead us.
42. Obama of coarse I mean just look at what he's doing the economy. I mean he has the big government of LBJ, the pussy that Carter had on Foreign Policy, the ego and bad ideas that the Republican Congress made impossible by Clinton, and the Socialist ideas of Hugo Chavez in one politician. He's spend more money than any politicians or person in american history. He'll bring us into a depression like nothing we've seen before. And I say go head do it I don't care show the world what a Socialist america looks like.
43. James Buchanan come on I'm not going to explain it he's the worst by far no question.
I do not want to stand up and sound like some ratical revolutionist, but we must stand up and protest, or even if it comes to it fight for our Liberties.
Obama has spent more than all other US presidents combined!
1,000,000,000,000 is 1000x 1,000,000,000.
If you wanted to count to a trillion, it would take about 150,000 years.
Try twelve trillion!
Well I really wouldn't be surprised if the deficit were to hit 20 trillion in ten years. Because think about it were going to have a two trillion dollar this year and a trillion dollar deficit for the next few years if obama stays in office.
http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=r0j0rfdj6655kiu605947
please respond, thanks.
1. FDR
2. Jefferson
3. Lincoln
4. Jackson
5. Polk
6. Washington
7. TR
8. Truman
9. Kennedy
10. Clinton
WORST:
1. Bush(GW)
2. Harding
3. Hoover
4. Buchanan
5. Nixon
6. Pierce
7. Fillmore
8. Johnson(A)
9. Tyler
10. Taylor
MOST OVERRATED:
5. Lincoln
4. Eisenhower
3. Madison
2. Washington
1. Reagan
MOST UNDERRATED:
5. Carter
4. Clinton
3. Monroe
2. Cleveland
1. Polk
You would notbelieve how similar that list is to mine.
BEST
1. FDR
2. Lincoln
3. Jackson
4. Jefferson
5. Polk
6. TR
7. Truman
8. Kennedy
9. Washington
10. Clinton
WORST
1. W. Bush
2. Harding
3. Buchanan
4. Hoover
5. Nixon
6. A. Johnson
7. Pierce
8. Fillmore
9. Tyler
10. Grant or Taylor
Our Overrated and Underrated are alike too.
OVERRATED
5. Wilson
4. Eisenhower
3. Washington
2. Madison
1. Reagan
UNDERRATED
5. Carter
4. Monroe
3. Clinton
2. Cleveland
1. Polk
FDR
Lincoln
Jackson
Jefferson
Polk
TR
Truman
Kennedy
Washington
Clinton
Wilson
Adams
Cleveland
LBJ
Eisenhower
McKinley
Monroe
Q. Adams
Van Buren
Madison
Taft
Carter
H.W. Bush
Coolidge
Reagan
Arthur
Ford
Hayes
Harrison
Taylor
Grant
Tyler
Fillmore
Pierce
A. Johnson
Nixon
Hoover
Buchanan
Harding
W. Bush
Your such a stupid liberal.
Dan, I don't think you're a stupid liberal.
to think, all of these great thoughts and opionions being wasted on a website, debating weather which president was best, or worst. These great minds, should be focused on the political issues of today, not of yester-year.
1. FDR
2. Lincoln
3. Jefferson
4. Washington
5. Jackson
6. TR
7. Wilson
8. Truman
9. Polk
10. Kennedy
Bottom Ten
10. Tyler
9. Fillmore
8. A. Johnson
7. Pierce
6. Hoover
5. Nixon
4. Grant
3. Buchanan
2. Harding
1. W. Bush






Recent comments