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			<title> joshua.goeke [Visitor] in response to: Muslim Community Center</title>
			<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="user anonymous" rel="bubbletip_comment_85960">joshua.goeke</span> <span class="bUser-anonymous-tag">[Visitor]</span></dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Less controversial?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://us.oneworld.net/article/368158-hug-arab-day-welcome-wake-ft-hood&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;http://us.oneworld.net/article/368158-hug-arab-day-welcome-wake-ft-hood&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Less controversial?</p>

<p><a href="http://us.oneworld.net/article/368158-hug-arab-day-welcome-wake-ft-hood" rel="nofollow ugc">http://us.oneworld.net/article/368158-hug-arab-day-welcome-wake-ft-hood</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title> La Cuidad [Visitor] in response to: Muslim Community Center</title>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 11:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="user anonymous" rel="bubbletip_comment_85593">La Cuidad</span> <span class="bUser-anonymous-tag">[Visitor]</span></dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;It is apparent that Stephen has not evolved as much as Fleegman. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lucky for us his like will eventually be weeded out - And the fittest will continue. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Who would want to believe in a God that plays favorites with different people groups anyway - saving some that He deems fit while completely wiping out others - when it is very easy to see that evolution already does this without God involved. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If only we could speed the process and rid the world of this delusion of God.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Maybe in another couple million years.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Repent - Evolution is at hand!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is apparent that Stephen has not evolved as much as Fleegman. </p>

<p>Lucky for us his like will eventually be weeded out - And the fittest will continue. </p>

<p>Who would want to believe in a God that plays favorites with different people groups anyway - saving some that He deems fit while completely wiping out others - when it is very easy to see that evolution already does this without God involved. </p>

<p>If only we could speed the process and rid the world of this delusion of God.</p>

<p>Maybe in another couple million years.</p>

<p>Repent - Evolution is at hand!<br /></p>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title> Fleegman [Visitor] in response to: Muslim Community Center</title>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 19:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="user anonymous" rel="bubbletip_comment_85591">Fleegman</span> <span class="bUser-anonymous-tag">[Visitor]</span></dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;That. Is. Priceless. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;I&amp;#8217;m a smart guy, I studied the theology of each text. It&amp;#8217;s not the same. In this case you clearly have to either take my word for it or go see for yourself.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, I don&amp;#8217;t know about you, Dan, but I&amp;#8217;m convinced. Stephen, when it comes to debating, you&amp;#8217;re right at the sharp end of the wedge. I must remember that strategy next time someone says something I don&amp;#8217;t agree with&amp;#8230; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So it goes something like this:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Ahem&amp;#8230; &amp;#8220;I&amp;#8217;m a smart guy; you just have to take my word for it that you&amp;#8217;re wrong. Oh, and you haven&amp;#8217;t studied it hard enough until you agree with me.&amp;#8221; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This is AWESOME, thanks! It&amp;#8217;s going to save me so much time coming up with actual counter arguments in the future. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, back in the real world, the Bible is clearly as violent as the Koran. Unfortunately for you, you&amp;#8217;ve made the transparently false claim that the Koran is worse than the Bible. Dan gave you a few examples of just how violent the Bible is and the result was the utter failure of apologetics you farted onto the page in your last comment. Wouldn&amp;#8217;t it be more honest to simply admit that &lt;i&gt;maybe&lt;/i&gt; the Bible is just a teensy weensy bit violent too? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It did, however, give me my first big laugh of the day. Which is good because I&amp;#8217;ve just played a pretty rubbish round of golf and I was in a somewhat of a melancholy mood. Thanks once again. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Oh and before I go: If you have to study theology and the Bible to some stupendous level of excellence to understand that the violence in the Bible actually &lt;i&gt;isn&amp;#8217;t&lt;/i&gt; the violence it looks exactly like, how in the world do the &lt;i&gt;vast&lt;/i&gt; majority of Christians - who aren&amp;#8217;t as educated as you clearly are in all things Biblical - know that the violence isn&amp;#8217;t &lt;i&gt;real&lt;/i&gt; violence? You know, if they haven&amp;#8217;t studied it really really really hard. How do they know that when the Bible says you should stone unruly children to death it doesn&amp;#8217;t actually mean &amp;#8220;stone them to death,&amp;#8221; but instead it means &amp;#8220;send them to their room,&amp;#8221; or &amp;#8220;take away their Playstation for a few days?&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I look forward to your well thought out, reasoned response. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All the best,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Fleegman&lt;/p&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That. Is. Priceless. </p>

<p><b>I&#8217;m a smart guy, I studied the theology of each text. It&#8217;s not the same. In this case you clearly have to either take my word for it or go see for yourself.</b></p>

<p>Well, I don&#8217;t know about you, Dan, but I&#8217;m convinced. Stephen, when it comes to debating, you&#8217;re right at the sharp end of the wedge. I must remember that strategy next time someone says something I don&#8217;t agree with&#8230; </p>

<p>So it goes something like this:</p>

<p>Ahem&#8230; &#8220;I&#8217;m a smart guy; you just have to take my word for it that you&#8217;re wrong. Oh, and you haven&#8217;t studied it hard enough until you agree with me.&#8221; </p>

<p>This is AWESOME, thanks! It&#8217;s going to save me so much time coming up with actual counter arguments in the future. </p>

<p>Now, back in the real world, the Bible is clearly as violent as the Koran. Unfortunately for you, you&#8217;ve made the transparently false claim that the Koran is worse than the Bible. Dan gave you a few examples of just how violent the Bible is and the result was the utter failure of apologetics you farted onto the page in your last comment. Wouldn&#8217;t it be more honest to simply admit that <i>maybe</i> the Bible is just a teensy weensy bit violent too? </p>

<p>It did, however, give me my first big laugh of the day. Which is good because I&#8217;ve just played a pretty rubbish round of golf and I was in a somewhat of a melancholy mood. Thanks once again. </p>

<p>Oh and before I go: If you have to study theology and the Bible to some stupendous level of excellence to understand that the violence in the Bible actually <i>isn&#8217;t</i> the violence it looks exactly like, how in the world do the <i>vast</i> majority of Christians - who aren&#8217;t as educated as you clearly are in all things Biblical - know that the violence isn&#8217;t <i>real</i> violence? You know, if they haven&#8217;t studied it really really really hard. How do they know that when the Bible says you should stone unruly children to death it doesn&#8217;t actually mean &#8220;stone them to death,&#8221; but instead it means &#8220;send them to their room,&#8221; or &#8220;take away their Playstation for a few days?&#8221;</p>

<p>I look forward to your well thought out, reasoned response. </p>

<p>All the best,</p>

<p>Fleegman</p>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title> Stephen [Visitor] in response to: Muslim Community Center</title>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="user anonymous" rel="bubbletip_comment_85584">Stephen</span> <span class="bUser-anonymous-tag">[Visitor]</span></dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;Not really. This type of hermeneutics isn&amp;#8217;t really something that you would understand unless you actually made the effort to study each religions theology. I&amp;#8217;m a smart guy, I studied the theology of each text. It&amp;#8217;s not the same. In this case you clearly have to either take my word for it or go see for yourself. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are there any modern churches who are taking these actions? No, because they are not required to. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Are there any modern sections of the Muslim faith who act on these texts or at least believe they should? Yup! Millions.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really. This type of hermeneutics isn&#8217;t really something that you would understand unless you actually made the effort to study each religions theology. I&#8217;m a smart guy, I studied the theology of each text. It&#8217;s not the same. In this case you clearly have to either take my word for it or go see for yourself. </p>

<p>Are there any modern churches who are taking these actions? No, because they are not required to. </p>

<p>Are there any modern sections of the Muslim faith who act on these texts or at least believe they should? Yup! Millions.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title>dan [Member] in response to: Muslim Community Center</title>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="login user nowrap" rel="bubbletip_user_1"><span class="identity_link_username">dan</span></span> <span class="bUser-member-tag">[Member]</span></dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;1 Samuel 15:2-3: This is what the LORD Almighty says: &amp;#8216;&amp;#8230; go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.&amp;#8217;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Numbers 31: 17-18: Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. (This is where the Bible says to molest little kids.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Deuteronomy 2:34: At that time we took all his towns and completely destroyed them—men, women and children. We left no survivors. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Joshua 6:21: They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Joshua 10:40: So Joshua subdued the whole region&amp;#8230; He left no survivors. He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the LORD, the God of Israel, had commanded.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Leviticus 24:15-16: Say to the Israelites: &amp;#8216;If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible; anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1 Kings 15:29: As soon as he began to reign, he killed Jeroboam&amp;#8217;s whole family. He did not leave Jeroboam anyone that breathed, but destroyed them all, according to the word of the LORD given through his servant Ahijah the Shilonite &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2 Chronicles 15:13: All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Psalm 58:10: The righteous will be glad when they are avenged, when they bathe their feet in the blood of the wicked. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Matthew 23:33 (Jesus speaking): You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Matthew 10:34 (Jesus speaking): Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Luke 14:26: (Jesus speaking): If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;2 Thessalonians 1:8-9: He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting destruction.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Revelation 21:8: But the unbelieving—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;ve heard how Christians reply to these passages: &amp;#8220;But, but, but! You&amp;#8217;re taking these out of context. They were for a different time and culture. Those people deserved to die! Many Christians don&amp;#8217;t believe these particular passages and even those who justify them don&amp;#8217;t usually act on them.&amp;#8221; The same replies could be given by Muslims when you quote the Qur&amp;#8217;an to them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 Samuel 15:2-3: This is what the LORD Almighty says: &#8216;&#8230; go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.&#8217;</p>

<p>Numbers 31: 17-18: Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man. (This is where the Bible says to molest little kids.)</p>

<p>Deuteronomy 2:34: At that time we took all his towns and completely destroyed them—men, women and children. We left no survivors. </p>

<p>Joshua 6:21: They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys.</p>

<p>Joshua 10:40: So Joshua subdued the whole region&#8230; He left no survivors. He totally destroyed all who breathed, just as the LORD, the God of Israel, had commanded.</p>

<p>Leviticus 24:15-16: Say to the Israelites: &#8216;If anyone curses his God, he will be held responsible; anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death.</p>

<p>1 Kings 15:29: As soon as he began to reign, he killed Jeroboam&#8217;s whole family. He did not leave Jeroboam anyone that breathed, but destroyed them all, according to the word of the LORD given through his servant Ahijah the Shilonite </p>

<p>2 Chronicles 15:13: All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.</p>

<p>Psalm 58:10: The righteous will be glad when they are avenged, when they bathe their feet in the blood of the wicked. </p>

<p>Matthew 23:33 (Jesus speaking): You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?</p>

<p>Matthew 10:34 (Jesus speaking): Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.</p>

<p>Luke 14:26: (Jesus speaking): If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple.</p>

<p>2 Thessalonians 1:8-9: He will punish those who do not know God and do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will be punished with everlasting destruction.</p>

<p>Revelation 21:8: But the unbelieving—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve heard how Christians reply to these passages: &#8220;But, but, but! You&#8217;re taking these out of context. They were for a different time and culture. Those people deserved to die! Many Christians don&#8217;t believe these particular passages and even those who justify them don&#8217;t usually act on them.&#8221; The same replies could be given by Muslims when you quote the Qur&#8217;an to them.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title> Stephen [Visitor] in response to: Muslim Community Center</title>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="user anonymous" rel="bubbletip_comment_85582">Stephen</span> <span class="bUser-anonymous-tag">[Visitor]</span></dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;They can build it. Whatever. But read the Koran dude. The heart of that text is not love, it is hate and it is physically aggressive. The bible doesn&amp;#8217;t say that if someone wont convert to Christianity then you should rape their children.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can build it. Whatever. But read the Koran dude. The heart of that text is not love, it is hate and it is physically aggressive. The bible doesn&#8217;t say that if someone wont convert to Christianity then you should rape their children.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title> La Cuidad [Visitor] in response to: Muslim Community Center</title>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 11:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="user anonymous" rel="bubbletip_comment_85513">La Cuidad</span> <span class="bUser-anonymous-tag">[Visitor]</span></dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;so you support man - boy love?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;my point is - where is the line drawn? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To society as a whole, isnt it harmful for anybody at all to worship a delusion instead of reason and facts.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And with that stated - Shouldnt reality be the deciding factor in deciding if the Mosque should go up - not whether or not two sets of brain washed religious people can plan nice or not because their fake gods are not the same.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so you support man - boy love?</p>

<p>my point is - where is the line drawn? </p>

<p>To society as a whole, isnt it harmful for anybody at all to worship a delusion instead of reason and facts.</p>

<p>And with that stated - Shouldnt reality be the deciding factor in deciding if the Mosque should go up - not whether or not two sets of brain washed religious people can plan nice or not because their fake gods are not the same.<br />
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			<title>dan [Member] in response to: Muslim Community Center</title>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 06:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><span class="login user nowrap" rel="bubbletip_user_1"><span class="identity_link_username">dan</span></span> <span class="bUser-member-tag">[Member]</span></dc:creator>
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			<description>&lt;p&gt;I stand up for the rights of a minority even if I don&amp;#8217;t agree with them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand up for the rights of a minority even if I don&#8217;t agree with them.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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