Personman - Latest Comments on Bush confessed to a felony on national TV http://personman.com/?disp=comments en-US http://backend.userland.com/rss 60 dan [Member] in response to: Bush confessed to a felony on national TV Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:08:15 +0000 [Member] c27089@http://personman.com/ <p>There&#8217;s plenty of blame to go around for people in both parties. If a Democratic president breaks the law and violates my civil rights, then I don&#8217;t like that either.</p> There’s plenty of blame to go around for people in both parties. If a Democratic president breaks the law and violates my civil rights, then I don’t like that either.

]]> http://personman.com/bush_confessed_to_a_felony_on_national_t#c27089 jksterup [Member] in response to: Bush confessed to a felony on national TV Thu, 02 Mar 2006 03:08:14 +0000 [Member] c27088@http://personman.com/ <p>I&#8217;m pretty sure Danny would gladly dish out criticism to both sides.</p> <p>And simply lying on National TV is worse than lying under oath? I&#8217;m not so sure. I guess it may be if you&#8217;re only looking at it from a legal standpoint, as far as what is and is not punishable by law. But morally I don&#8217;t see much difference. &#8220;Let your yes be yes and your no be no,&#8221; and all that.</p> I’m pretty sure Danny would gladly dish out criticism to both sides.

And simply lying on National TV is worse than lying under oath? I’m not so sure. I guess it may be if you’re only looking at it from a legal standpoint, as far as what is and is not punishable by law. But morally I don’t see much difference. “Let your yes be yes and your no be no,” and all that.

]]> http://personman.com/bush_confessed_to_a_felony_on_national_t#c27088 Anonymous Coward [Visitor] in response to: Bush confessed to a felony on national TV Wed, 01 Mar 2006 17:59:22 +0000 Anonymous Coward [Visitor] c26395@http://personman.com/ <p>Not to inject too much seriousness into this post, but the issue with our last president lying seemed to mostly revolve around the fact that when he lied he was doing so under oath. If you honestly think that there has been any president in, well a really long time, that has not lied to the american people then you must be living in quite a blissful, albeit unrealistic world. It seems to be the natural order of the present state of america that lying to its people is acceptable for national security; I think Bush has a much better case here than &#8217;slick willy&#8217; and any trouble his &#8216;willy&#8217; may have gotten into in the oval office.<br /> Moreover, quite a few presidents in recent memory have preformed <a href="http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=20&amp;artnum=3&amp;issue=20060215" rel="nofollow ugc"> warrant-less wiretaps</a> including Kennedy and Carter. Google &#8216;Executive Order 12139&prime; to see Carter&#8217;s order to allow such surveillance, or read elsewhere how the courts upheld a conviction of two men who Carter&#8217;s administration had used similar wiretap and who wrote that the executive branch has &#8220;inherent authority&#8221; to wiretap enemies such as spies and <b>terror plotters</b> and is excused from obtaining warrants when the surveillance is &#8220;conducted primarily for foreign intelligence reasons&#8221; quoted from above link. <a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/092502sup.html" rel="nofollow ugc">see this for more information on the topic</a> If you have all this trouble with Bush&#8217;s actions, well it sounds like you have quite a bit of trouble with some democratic presidents as well; so let us not just come down on one side of it but either condemn both sides equally or not at all.</p> Not to inject too much seriousness into this post, but the issue with our last president lying seemed to mostly revolve around the fact that when he lied he was doing so under oath. If you honestly think that there has been any president in, well a really long time, that has not lied to the american people then you must be living in quite a blissful, albeit unrealistic world. It seems to be the natural order of the present state of america that lying to its people is acceptable for national security; I think Bush has a much better case here than ’slick willy’ and any trouble his ‘willy’ may have gotten into in the oval office.
Moreover, quite a few presidents in recent memory have preformed warrant-less wiretaps including Kennedy and Carter. Google ‘Executive Order 12139′ to see Carter’s order to allow such surveillance, or read elsewhere how the courts upheld a conviction of two men who Carter’s administration had used similar wiretap and who wrote that the executive branch has “inherent authority” to wiretap enemies such as spies and terror plotters and is excused from obtaining warrants when the surveillance is “conducted primarily for foreign intelligence reasons” quoted from above link. see this for more information on the topic If you have all this trouble with Bush’s actions, well it sounds like you have quite a bit of trouble with some democratic presidents as well; so let us not just come down on one side of it but either condemn both sides equally or not at all.

]]> http://personman.com/bush_confessed_to_a_felony_on_national_t#c26395 Heath [Visitor] in response to: Bush confessed to a felony on national TV Wed, 22 Feb 2006 09:53:26 +0000 Heath [Visitor] c26173@http://personman.com/ <p>I&#8217;m just glad we have a Christian in there. Not like that other guy from Taxachussetts. What was he, a Catholic or something?</p> I’m just glad we have a Christian in there. Not like that other guy from Taxachussetts. What was he, a Catholic or something?

]]> http://personman.com/bush_confessed_to_a_felony_on_national_t#c26173 jksterup [Member] in response to: Bush confessed to a felony on national TV Sat, 18 Feb 2006 02:12:07 +0000 [Member] c25996@http://personman.com/ <p>Ah. I guess I missed that.</p> Ah. I guess I missed that.

]]> http://personman.com/bush_confessed_to_a_felony_on_national_t#c25996 dan [Member] in response to: Bush confessed to a felony on national TV Sat, 18 Feb 2006 02:07:22 +0000 [Member] c25995@http://personman.com/ <p>Kyle, meet Heath. There&#8217;s something you should know about him. He&#8217;s a rabid leftist with a very dry sense of humor. I think you guys will get along well.</p> Kyle, meet Heath. There’s something you should know about him. He’s a rabid leftist with a very dry sense of humor. I think you guys will get along well.

]]> http://personman.com/bush_confessed_to_a_felony_on_national_t#c25995 jksterup [Member] in response to: Bush confessed to a felony on national TV Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:16:44 +0000 [Member] c25992@http://personman.com/ <p>I think Danny was suggesting that violating civil liberties against the established law of the country (and lying about it) may be a worse crime than having oral sex (and lying about it).</p> I think Danny was suggesting that violating civil liberties against the established law of the country (and lying about it) may be a worse crime than having oral sex (and lying about it).

]]> http://personman.com/bush_confessed_to_a_felony_on_national_t#c25992 Heath [Visitor] in response to: Bush confessed to a felony on national TV Fri, 17 Feb 2006 12:53:52 +0000 Heath [Visitor] c25991@http://personman.com/ <p>How can your last comment be serious? Everyone knows that W has much better values than Slick Willie ever did.</p> How can your last comment be serious? Everyone knows that W has much better values than Slick Willie ever did.

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